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I really like how @Maitreya handled the whole black marketing thing. No emotional outbursts, long rants, threats, etc. Posted a matter of fact statement that she has protection in place, and moved on.

I would be surprised if someone is surprised there was going to be blackmarketing lol!

In fact, spiritually, no other creator’s conduct impresses me as much as Maitreya. Never seen her emotional, annoyed, impatient, angry, rude, snarky, etc. Never any drama. These are the qualities of a spiritually evolved person, right? I don’t know who has what hidden superpower, but conduct in day to day life shows maturity and evolution more than anything else.

Not implying anything negative about Shiva, he has always been a nice guy, just an observation in my opinion on what sets Maitreya apart.

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Yeah, Maitreya managed it fine. Shiva was upset, and I think it is fine too 'cause we are all humans and spiritual development is not a linear issue and not all people deal with problems in the same way. We evolve, but we still having a shadow to accept, otherwise we would not be here on these bodies, incarnated.

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The comment i posted above should have been rephrased better. The requests don’t necessarily annoy him so much as they burden him, among other things. From what I have read, he is very empathic and sensitive, and can feel the emotions of those he interacts with. This includes all those requesters in his comments.

I think the real reason he is quitting, however, is because of the abuse and misuse of his creations. A lot of people have circulated his advanced files on the black market, and because of this there have been karmic consequences for everyone involved (including himself, the seller and the buyer). Meanwhile, people also don’t take his warnings seriously and spam his audios, leading to their nervous systems getting fried by the intense energies. These problems have only grown along with Shiva’s popularity. Earlier, he used to be very helpful and friendly to those in his comments. But now, he seems to be agonized by every reply he gives to commentors (but he still tries to do it). In fact, Shiva almost already quit few weeks ago. The only thing stopping him was an email he received from girl saying that one of his audios brought her mother out of a coma. So he still intends to honor whatever requests he already has, but after that he’s done. And I respect that. But I want to encourage others to respect that as well, because it would be inconsiderate and just burden him even more to disregard his wishes.

(this next reply is not directed at you specifically, so please don’t feel offended)

Maybe they will, maybe they won’t. But I think it is a very poor attitude to take the creators we already have for granted, blindly hoping assuming that “someone else” will just happen to come along as if they are disposable. These creators are very talented in their own rights, and they should be appreciated properly. Going back to my previous point, one of the first things people do when Shiva (and practically every other creator) uploads a new video is not thank them for it, or give a review. They make a request for another audio to be made. It’s always “More! More! More!” Rather than appreciate what we do have. I’ll admit that I myself have been guilty of this, but when Shiva posted the comment in the screenshot above, I have since taken a step back and decided to just appreciate whatever is put out by the creators rather than ask. I have pretty much everything I need now anyways.

I think we all need to learn the difference between receiving the gifts we are given, and taking them.

Yeah, you know, from others’ perspectives I can see how I may come off as a tabloid author given how much “gossip” I seem to air out. So I would like to clear up any misunderstandings.

My primary goal, and the motivation behind a lot of the updates I post, is to educate others and shed light on the facts regarding creators in this community. This was also my motivation behind creating The Dossier (which I really should update). I see a lot of misinformation and falsehoods which are spread around by others, and it frustrates me to see that people aren’t properly using these powerful tools, or have misconceptions about them which limits them.
It is not my intention to perpetuate gossip, in fact it’s quite the opposite. I try to play the role of peacemaker, and dissolve any inter-community drama/conflict wherever I may he able to, be it here or sapien’s forum. I want all of us to get a long and respectfully acknowledge each-other’s views/opinions even if we don’t necessarily agree. That is why you see me involved in situations like these: not to perpetuate them, but rather diffuse them.

Yes, and I appreciate that a lot. And I’m sure others do too. I also posted this to sapien’s forum to spread the message and hopefully encourage others not to bug Shiva.

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Looks like Shiva needs Sapien’s Shielding tag :slight_smile:

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Probably lol, its definitely helped me

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Yess. Maitey team always be nice. I sent them lot of email to question everytime i buy something or dont buy at all, they reply very consistancy, fast and humble.
Shiva is a good person but he seem like too reactive. I think most product in the world have black market if it well-known, even the best company like Microsoft, Apple, still have people try to crack legimate, china factory make fake product…etc etc… So he dont need to react like that.
If he know there will be karmic consequence then he should not do from begin. Every energy creator know that black market always exist, cuz that is all about human psychology.

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That’s why karma is a prison, anything you do generates karma, lol Shiva is not to blame for people smuggling your products, it’s a meaningless belief.

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I have heard from some experienced people that shiva’s products are brute force kind - not elegant or finely tuned like Sapien or Maitreya, so does not easily or smoothly integrate and can cause a sense of overwhelm even if used according to instructions, and people feel the friction and think of it like strong field, which is not a good thing in the long run.

I am not that highly energy sensitive, so I don’t know the truth here, but going by his reaction etc., may be this hypothesis has some truth to it.

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Yes. His field seem too strong. I always headache after listen his advanced files, especially release inner fear and omnipotence. They work like crazy for short term but i dont feel it last long. Seem like i just have a sense of energy but it not integrated with my aura. Im just an average joe but Sapien work best for me and then Maitreya in term of last long effect.

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You can only get lasting effects from anything with a lot of purification and that takes a lot of time. I have probably seen omnipotent beings here in my neighborhood and I have a feeling it took them at least many lifetimes and maybe 60 years in the current life to become omnipotent.

When you have completed the ascension process or kundalini awakening, you will become omnipotent and immortal. It’s always about purification/reaching perfection.

I have seen some of the pure ones becoming pure about maybe 4 times in mid-process; the light reached the crown chakra and they became totally activated and became ascended masters, but I only saw part of the process when their heads started wobbling supernaturally when the light was consuming their brains. That light would have consumed their whole body.

I did see one saint who was likely totally complete in his ascension because he showed me a portion of his light body via his eyes. His eyes were literally glowing balls of light. He was a literal immortal. I think I surprised him because I was not scared of him.

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Yes, I also have the feeling that the shiva files are of the brute force type, however, I have the impression that Sapiens’ files are very passive and light, so that in the end sometimes they don’t result in anything, I believe that the balance would be stronger than Sapiens, but not as strong as Shiva.

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Yeah. When I visited his patreon and gumroad pages, I made my mind, I’ll subscribe to his patreon and also get some gumroad audios that worked well for me from his yt channels (most of them are deleted by himself). I even missed Maitreya’s sale as I was waiting for some more files Of Mef in Gumroad. I asked myself, why are you unable to get this idea out of your head? Relax, Sam. they’re not going out anywhere. But the impulse to buy everything was too much. I quickly realized, I have been manipulated.

Sorry thing is, his shit works.

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I don’t think, it’s passive. I feel the energy very elegant and fine tuned. Aggressive energy like SZ won’t stick to you for long.

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Yeah, I kinda felt similarly to you in the end. I know some of his fields work very well. But, for me, that does not justify his use of controlling energies on his sales pages who’s sole purpose is to coerce me to buy.

After thinking about this for a few days, I thought of a comparison that makes the point well. I remember a while ago reading a statement from Maitreya where she said she programmed energy into her YouTube page. But, the important thing was that the energy was designed to only attract those she could help. That seems perfectly acceptable to me, because it’s an act motivated by love.

But, MEF programming his sales pages to make you want to buy his things is in my opinion not acceptable. It’s coercive, manipulative, & dark - an act motivated by what…greed? I do not live that way, nor do I resonate with those who do.

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Is Dream Seeds leaving YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKBelehu_g

I just ordered the Alchemist Trio, my silver Binary Infusion has been invaluable in shifting reality…

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If you mean youtube yes

Yes

I wanted to too, but my room is not big and the rings looked huge lol

Haha. Yeah, I agree with you. By the last line, what I meant is, even though I try to protect myself from this kinda spell, his crazy tactic somewhat worked on me.

He’s not a trustworthy person for me. So, i wouldn’t be ready to take any energy from him, paid or free.

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