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Probably lol, its definitely helped me

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Yess. Maitey team always be nice. I sent them lot of email to question everytime i buy something or dont buy at all, they reply very consistancy, fast and humble.
Shiva is a good person but he seem like too reactive. I think most product in the world have black market if it well-known, even the best company like Microsoft, Apple, still have people try to crack legimate, china factory make fake product…etc etc… So he dont need to react like that.
If he know there will be karmic consequence then he should not do from begin. Every energy creator know that black market always exist, cuz that is all about human psychology.

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That’s why karma is a prison, anything you do generates karma, lol Shiva is not to blame for people smuggling your products, it’s a meaningless belief.

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I have heard from some experienced people that shiva’s products are brute force kind - not elegant or finely tuned like Sapien or Maitreya, so does not easily or smoothly integrate and can cause a sense of overwhelm even if used according to instructions, and people feel the friction and think of it like strong field, which is not a good thing in the long run.

I am not that highly energy sensitive, so I don’t know the truth here, but going by his reaction etc., may be this hypothesis has some truth to it.

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Yes. His field seem too strong. I always headache after listen his advanced files, especially release inner fear and omnipotence. They work like crazy for short term but i dont feel it last long. Seem like i just have a sense of energy but it not integrated with my aura. Im just an average joe but Sapien work best for me and then Maitreya in term of last long effect.

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You can only get lasting effects from anything with a lot of purification and that takes a lot of time. I have probably seen omnipotent beings here in my neighborhood and I have a feeling it took them at least many lifetimes and maybe 60 years in the current life to become omnipotent.

When you have completed the ascension process or kundalini awakening, you will become omnipotent and immortal. It’s always about purification/reaching perfection.

I have seen some of the pure ones becoming pure about maybe 4 times in mid-process; the light reached the crown chakra and they became totally activated and became ascended masters, but I only saw part of the process when their heads started wobbling supernaturally when the light was consuming their brains. That light would have consumed their whole body.

I did see one saint who was likely totally complete in his ascension because he showed me a portion of his light body via his eyes. His eyes were literally glowing balls of light. He was a literal immortal. I think I surprised him because I was not scared of him.

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Yes, I also have the feeling that the shiva files are of the brute force type, however, I have the impression that Sapiens’ files are very passive and light, so that in the end sometimes they don’t result in anything, I believe that the balance would be stronger than Sapiens, but not as strong as Shiva.

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Yeah. When I visited his patreon and gumroad pages, I made my mind, I’ll subscribe to his patreon and also get some gumroad audios that worked well for me from his yt channels (most of them are deleted by himself). I even missed Maitreya’s sale as I was waiting for some more files Of Mef in Gumroad. I asked myself, why are you unable to get this idea out of your head? Relax, Sam. they’re not going out anywhere. But the impulse to buy everything was too much. I quickly realized, I have been manipulated.

Sorry thing is, his shit works.

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I don’t think, it’s passive. I feel the energy very elegant and fine tuned. Aggressive energy like SZ won’t stick to you for long.

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Yeah, I kinda felt similarly to you in the end. I know some of his fields work very well. But, for me, that does not justify his use of controlling energies on his sales pages who’s sole purpose is to coerce me to buy.

After thinking about this for a few days, I thought of a comparison that makes the point well. I remember a while ago reading a statement from Maitreya where she said she programmed energy into her YouTube page. But, the important thing was that the energy was designed to only attract those she could help. That seems perfectly acceptable to me, because it’s an act motivated by love.

But, MEF programming his sales pages to make you want to buy his things is in my opinion not acceptable. It’s coercive, manipulative, & dark - an act motivated by what…greed? I do not live that way, nor do I resonate with those who do.

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Is Dream Seeds leaving YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKBelehu_g

I just ordered the Alchemist Trio, my silver Binary Infusion has been invaluable in shifting reality…

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If you mean youtube yes

Yes

I wanted to too, but my room is not big and the rings looked huge lol

Haha. Yeah, I agree with you. By the last line, what I meant is, even though I try to protect myself from this kinda spell, his crazy tactic somewhat worked on me.

He’s not a trustworthy person for me. So, i wouldn’t be ready to take any energy from him, paid or free.

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Is the sapien forum down for anyone else? I keep getting “504 bad gateway”

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Alchemist Trio? what is this?

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Sapien Medicine - YouTube read this bro.

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Maybe Mr Avatar destroyed the forum using his powers by controlling souls etc, :smiley:

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