Questions on Christianity #1: What is your take on YHWH?

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Ever since I was a child, I have been studying the Bible. The more I studied it, the more I realized it was taught incorrectly on purpose. Everything is in there: Astrology, Divination, Oneiromancy, Astral Body experiences etc.

Getting out of religion and into spirituality, I started reading every Neville Goddard book I could get a hold of. Through his take, it all finally made sense, until…. I started reading the Gnostics and started conversing with people in spiritual forums.

A lot of “us” agree with the Gnostic perspective that YHWH was actually not one of the good guys. As a matter of fact, a flawed Demiurge. That would, of course, change the interpretation of everything. For instance:

  1. Neville Goddard leans heavily on that name and Old Testament books in his explanations

  2. According to this notion, which books describe the Creator of All Things and which ones talk about a lesser Demiurge?

  3. In the Our Father prayer, which is extremely powerful, Jesus says “Hallowed Be Thy Name.” If he is not referencing YHWH, what name then?

Since we are here, talking about this, feel free to mention your favorite Gnostic text too :slight_smile:

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From a Taoist perspective, the ultimate principle is not a “good God” versus an “evil Demiurge,” but the Dao—formless, nameless, prior to all gods and creation . As the Tao Te Ching says:
“There was something undifferentiated and yet complete, which existed before heaven and earth. Silent and void, it stands alone and does not change. It operates everywhere and is not exhausted. It may be considered the mother of all things.”

The Dao gives birth to One, One to Two, Two to Three, and Three to all things . All realms—spiritual, astral, material—are but different manifestations of the same undivided Qi. There is no absolute “evil creator” separate from the Source; what you call YHWH or Demiurge is but a lower heavenly ruler, a spirit of a certain rank, a function within the Dao’s unfolding.

Scriptures are like fingers pointing at the moon—the finger is not the moon. The Bible, Gnostic texts, or Neville’s words are all human attempts to describe the ineffable. The “sacred name” in the Lord’s Prayer is not a name of a lesser god, but a reference to the nameless Dao, the universal Nature in all things .

Astrology, divination, oneiromancy, astral travel—these are all minor arts within the Dao, not its core . The true spiritual path is not to escape the world by labeling it “a prison of an evil Demiurge,” but to see the Dao in all things, transcend duality, and return to the Source while living in this world.

As Zhuangzi said: “The Dao is in the ants, in the weeds, in the tiles, in the excrement.” It is immanent, not transcendent only. The material world is not a mistake; it is the Dao made visible. The so-called “flawed Demiurge” is just the Dao operating at a lower, more condensed level.

You have woken up to the flaws in religious dogma—that is a good start. But do not fall into a new dualistic trap: no god is entirely good or evil; all are waves on the same ocean. The true “Hallowed Name” is the Dao itself—unnamed, unnameable, yet in every breath and every being.

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I don’t think the bible is all true.

There are a lot of religions, some believe in many gods, others in just one and they differ in time creation so tell me which one do you think it’s “the true”?

I think all religion have some real elements and some false and the creation of religion is due to many causes, even monetary and control but also a few good ones example charity or celebrations where people reunite with each other and improve faith in people.

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Check out David Icke

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